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Lid Dem Mark Thompson on a Tory that he admires

January 5th, 2012

In praise of Douglas Carswell

I am a Lib Dem but I’ve always found the partisan nature of UK politics a bit of a turn off. I think most people realise it is largely a facade and that lots of parliamentarians get on very well with their colleagues from other parties. In some cases much better than they do on their own side, after all they are vying with those in their own party for the jobs!

So I was pleased to see Labour PB poster Henry Manson’s recent post on David Davis and in a similar spirit I would like to pay tribute to my favourite Conservative MP.

Douglas Carswell was first elected MP for Clacton in 2005 and has rapidly become a widely respected backbench MP.

In 2008 along with MEP Daniel Hannan he wrote “The Plan – Twelve Months to Renew Britain” which sets out his thinking in a number of areas including cleaning up Westminster, direct democracy, repealing laws and radical devolution of power.

I interviewed him about the book in 2009 and was struck by how wide-ranging and ambitious some of his ideas were. Yet reviewing some of them a couple of years on it is interesting to see that a number of them have already moved into the mainstream and are being enacted upon such as secret ballots for select committee chairs, widespread use of open primaries within Conservative selections, elected police commissioners and benefit reforms to name but a few.

Whereas too often, too many Tory MPs appear to be conservative with a small c in their approach, Carswell never seems to give this impression. He is genuinely interested in ideas wherever they come from and has formed alliances across all sorts of political boundaries including on occasion with very left wing MPs.

Perhaps his most famous public intervention to date was in 2008 when he publicly called for the removal of Michael Martin as Speaker. Martin had become a busted flush following his failure to restore public confidence in the expenses system and indeed his complicity in trying to keep a lid on the scandal. Although lots of MPs were muttering under their breath about the situation the clubbable nature of parliament persuaded them to keep quiet. Carswell as is his wont felt under no such obligation and wrote an article calling for him to go. He was instrumental in the final, successful move against Martin in 2009, tabling the no confidence motion and persuading numerous colleagues to sign it against convention.

So he is no traditional conservative. What underlined this most starkly to me was when he confirmed to me that he would in principle be willing to campaign for a change to a multi-member proportional constituency system. As far as I know he was the only Conservative MP before the last election to have gone on the record with such a statement.

I have my political differences with Douglas. Some of the ideas in The Plan seem a bit wrong-headed to me and he does appear to be a little bit of obsessed with what he refers to as “Guardianistas” infiltrating the political process putting him off being even more radical, dissuading him for example from pushing for a written constitution. I also think he has got it very wrong on climate change.

But if the Conservative party generally had half as much vision, backbone and integrity as Douglas Carswell it would be a much better party than it is today. Who knows, they may have even won the last election.

Mark’s own blog is here




  • Anonymous

    Ed Miliband really is crap. “The herd” were right from Day 1.

    Excellent @nigelfletcher on Ed leading “history’s best opposition” – polls like Kinnock & fewer council wins than Hague http://t.co/948IBZp1

  • Marquee Mark

    SHER-LOCKED was brilliant and corny and brilliant.

    Obviously Steven Moffat is using his best writing skills for things other than Doctor Who (although I was more generous of spirit towards the 2011 Christmas special than many, it seems…)

  • Anonymous

    Interesting. The term “black community” is in itself racist in my view, because it suggests that people can, should, and do, dwell and socialise according to race. As far as I know, they don’t.

  • The Screaming Eagles

    The Doctor Who Christmas special was the Ed Miliband of Christmas shows.

    This is how bad it was, it could have starred Amy Pond for the whole episode, and it would have still been rubbish

  • moses

    Not unsurprising but I note Timbot has again disappeared as soon as one of his own gets in the firing line. Checking up on the Labour party line to take obviously. The last few days he has been on his ‘white’ charger about racism and indeed a lot I agreed with. Then out of the blue one of his very own scuppers him completely.

    You would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

    Had this been a coalition MP then you know the furore that would have happened for days.  Yet as we see from a post above this racist woman has already slipped to story No .

    What angers me is again the Labour left wing hypocrisy.  Tells you everything you need to know about the real ‘nasty’ party

  • Anonymous

    The spin wars continue.

    Lord Glasman has met Ed M three times in the last 18 months. Is he a has-been or a never-was? Blogpost http://t.co/Moze6Abv

    @DPJHodges: @paulwaugh  Whoever told you Ed has only met Maurice 3 times in 18 months is lying out of their arse.

  • Anonymous

    The most entertaining star treks are when the subtext is the prospect of some inter-species rumpy pumpy.

  • Anonymous

    TSE if it had starred Amy Pond it would have been even worse. To be honest though most people by that stage of Christmas Day are too stuffed or to drunk to care what crap they are watching.

  • http://twitter.com/MorrisF1 Morris Dancer

    I didn’t mind using aliens rather than Christian relics (where do you go after the Holy Grail?), it was the overuse of CGI, the lacklustre villainess and his son being rubbish that irked me. I did think it an ok film, Harrison Ford’s still cool.

  • Fluffy Thoughts

    You claim to be a ‘high-powered’ councillor and – I assume – it is somewhere it is in the Midlands. If so I hope you have no say in education.

    Your dismissal of English history is worthy of Birmingham-Labour’s banishment of Christmas. Your idea that the Scots had no part in ‘The [English] Civil-Wars’ [sic] ignore the religious conflicts in the Scots’ lands

    Oliver Cromwell had to ‘pacify’ the Conventors and disband the Scots’ Parliament. The one that followed a few decades later folded within a few decades (Dahrian et. al.). Your ignorance must be a bliss (within your world-view) old-girl*…!

    * Post points for debate; not shyte poems. Being polemic ain’t all but it’s better than them fourteen year-old authored limericks you’re fond of…! :P

  • tim

    My views are entirely consistent, what Abbott tweeted was racist and she should be sacked.

  • Anonymous

    The fiscal rules being not to run a deficit greater than 3%.

    It was lower than that before the financial crisis, of course. In fact, the structural deficit was the same as Labour inherited from the Tories (and debt was lower).

    Labour made many grave errors, not least their reliance on a destructive City economic model. But over-borrowing was not one of them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/blundellj James Blundell

    The MP for my own constituency, Natascha Engel has written detailed replies to some letters I have sent her way and voted for Mr Nuttal’s bill in the commons. Not completely a bad egg for a labour MP.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, non-partisan.

    Some here may find it hard to believe that not everyone on the centre-left is a slavish Labour Party loyalist, but I’m afraid it’s true.

  • Anonymous

    It was extremely good. I also caught Treasure island on Sky, which i thought was excellent, although it did involve 4 hours of having to put up with Eddie Izzard.

  • Jack W

    Hello to PB and a quick update for you.

    Jack gave us all a big scare after Christmas and it looked very grim for many days. Subsequently he told us that “mature Jacobites were made of much sterner stuff and he was looking forward to his 109th birthday in January.”

    Jack will hopefully be home next week and I’m bulk buying candles for the  109th. He passes on his congratulations to “Herders” as the newest POTY and after some rest Jack will be returning to the PB fray in due course.

    I thank you all for your past kind comments, they are very much appreciated over difficult period.

    Mrs Jack W (Not Nearly 108 or anywhere close !)

  • moses

    as well as

    The IMF as well as the EU central bank gave warnings .

     1) Dec 2003 IMF gives Brown borrowing warning

    2) Sep 2005 IMF report warning over £1 trillion mountain of debt

    3) Sep 2005 Brown besieged over growth and borrowing plans

    4) Dec 2005 IMF fires new warning over Britain’s finances

    5) Sep 2006 IMF warns over possible UK property crash

    6) Oct 2007 IMF report UK house market is ‘heading for crash’

    7) Apr 2008 IMF: UK vulnerable to US-style housing slump

    This October, the IMF said that the UK was worst placed of all the major
    economies to weather the coming recession. 

  • Anonymous

    We were dreadfully placed to weather the City crash, because we were so reliant on it.

  • tim

    I see our resident Muslim baiter, including Plato who has posted BNP emails on here while claiming not to know what they are, have discovered an anti racist antennae we didn’t know they had.

    Let’s hope it lasts.

  • Richard Nabavi

    The fiscal rules being not to run a deficit greater than 3%.

    Wrong.

    “the golden rule: over the economic cycle the Government will only borrow to invest and not to fund current expenditure”

    http://archive.treasury.gov.uk/pub/html/docs/fpp/1998/code/cfs.pdf

    Page 16.

    What a complete joke that was!

  • Fluffy Thoughts

    At least you’re not Scottish, Mrs B….

    Typical plastic-post from Neil: If she is not a Scot she is one of us plastics. PS: Beating-up of the GNats is so 2009, please read past-postings before promoting yourself as an arse-hole…! :)

  • Marquee Mark

    Then you are going to love my film script!

  • moses

    Good.  A first for me I actually liked one of your posts

  • Plato

    I find it incredibly patronising. To me *community leader* shrieks *tribal elder* as if the rest of the population were mute sheep with a cultural history of cooking missionaries in pots. We’d never expect that sort of media cobblers from a bunch of white residents or say a very distinct interest group like Park Farm gypsies.

    I can barely recall a broadcaster asking such *community leaders* to clarify exactly who they are talking on behalf of, how they gained this position or who they’re accountable to.

    I can see how a vicar or somesuch can legitimately claim to speak for their own parishioners [all couple of dozen of them] and that’s about it. But it should be clear exactly who they are rather than the de facto authority they’re handed when in front of a microphone.

    Grrr. Makes me very annoyed that its those who jump up and down about stereotyping are reinforcing the erroneous idea that if you’re not-white, someone has to talk for you/about you as a blob of people defined by their skin colour.

    Where did this all come from? I certainly never heard about *community leaders* until about the last 15yrs.

    Sometimes I genuinely wonder if some of these *community leaders* would just love to have a situation where they are king of the heap – and that they’ve watched far too much US identity politics TV given how often people like Dr ML King get cited.

    *puts on kettle*

  • Anonymous


     But over-borrowing was not one of them.’

    Do you also believe the earth is flat?

  • Anonymous

    Well I enjoyed it…

  • Plato

    Glad to hear that Mr Jack W is on the mend and anticipating his 109th.

    Those medicinal pies are clearly doing their work. Please pass on our heartfelt best wishes.

  • Anonymous

    The closest thing to a true community leader I can think of is the local councillor, but you see many of those on the telly. Don;t know why. Not edgy enough?

  • Plato

    Is there a David Cameron or Nick Clegg lookalike? This is quite bizarre on so many levels.

    The social networking site, Twitter, has provoked fury after refusing
    to act against a user responsible for a stream of death threats and
    antisemitic abuse.

    Shereef Abdallah, who advertises himself as an Ed Miliband lookalike
    and claims to have worked on the Labour leader’s election campaign,
    began by targeting people identified as supporters of Tony Blair. He has
    since widened his online attacks to anyone who challenges him.

    As the violence of his language escalated, Mr Abdallah turned his
    fire on a young British Israeli woman, “Rachel”, who had criticised his
    description of his opponents as Nazis.

    Using often explicit pornographic language, Mr Abdallah made direct
    threats such as: “I will hunt you down & fight you min by min. hr by
    hr. day by day. wk by wk. month by month. year by year for the rest of
    yr life.”

    He later threatened to beat her to death, noting that this was “a
    promise” he would carry out. The police have now taken up the case after
    a former Labour Party press officer intervened – only to be threatened
    with having his throat cut.

    Mr Abdallah, who has worked as a volunteer at the office of Glenda
    Jackson and blogged for the Labour Party affiliate organisation Young
    Fabians, started his campaign with attacks on “Julia”, a young woman who
    runs the Blairite blog Julie’s Think Tank… http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/61425/twitter-fails-act-over-ed-miliband-lookalikes-anti-israel-death-threats

  • Mike Smithson

    Mrs. Jack W – I have asked if Jack’s parents could certify that this is his 109th birthday. Could you pass that on?

  • Anonymous

    Wee Timmy: was Diane Abbott talking about you? You divide and rule white man!

  • Charles

    Criticising Cammie Blair (or “David Cameron” as I prefer to call him) is fair enough.  It’s just a little off in an article that was specifically designed as  ‘one where you are nice about the opposition’

  • Plato

    Lee Jasper is really doing his best to minimise Ms Abbott’s comments – apparently its only the ‘lunatic fringe of the Tory Party’ who are making a fuss about it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byNXvJ8glrY

  • Anonymous

    I believe this the mentioned Mr Abdallah… or is it Ed??

    http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/shereef-abdallah.jpeg

    What can you say…. uncanny isn’t it.. :D

  • Anonymous

    I really, really like Ken Clarke down to his suede shoes !

  • Plato

    Very good point – rarely see them on the telly unless its some dismally dull but hot local planning dispute.

  • Kristin


    The young blogger became seriously concerned when Mr Abdallah turned up at her university.”

    Sounds like a job for plod imo. 

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to hear Jacks been so poorly. Glad he’s on the mend now though. :)

  • MickP0rk

    Incorrect.

    The article was designed as where you are nice about a tory (or opposition figure) not the entire party and it’s leader.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is makijng cuts to the US defence budget – expect the marines to be cut back.
    But also –
    ‘As part of the new reality, Mr. Panetta is expected to propose cuts in
    coming weeks to next-generation weapons, including delays in purchases
    of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
    jet, one of the most expensive weapons programs in history. Delaying
    the F-35 would leave its factories open, giving the manufacturer,
    Lockheed Martin, a chance to work out continuing problems in developing
    the plane…’

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/obama-at-pentagon-to-outline-cuts-and-strategic-shifts.html

    The F35 is the plane Labour chose to fly from its giant aircraft carriers.  It seems highly unlikely that the VTOL version will go ahead now and its as well that the coalition decided to give one of these carriers a catapult.
    but even then the programme is delayed.
    The thing to note is ‘one of the most expensive weapons programs in history’.  This is one reason why our defences are a mess.  Late and expensive and experimental.
    Giant aircraft carriers we do not need and cannot afford and exotic jets we cannot afford and do not need and whose supply was always hanging on a thread.

  • Anonymous

    A Lib Dem I admire is David Howarth ex-MP. Intellectually astute,  strong on civil liberties. And completely honest.

    Let me remind you of those expenses claims again. They are:
    Total second homes claims:

    2004/5: £0

    2005/6: £0

    2006/7: £0

    2007/8: £0

    (Quite a contrast with the wretched Labour MP he displaced).Of course, someone like David Howarth is way too good for our Parliament.

    He stood down.

  • tim

    Most people pick politicians from parties they don’t vote for on the basis that they are different from their view of the typical politician from that party – it shouldn’t come as a surprise that Henry points out David Davis isn’t a chinless fop, any more than someone who likes Kate Hoey pointing out that she isn’t a North London SPAD

  • Moniker of Monza

    Mick have you seen this ?  Murdoch has been twittering about his old friend Salmond.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/01/snp-leader-murdoch-salmond 

  • Anonymous

    And bearing in mind there was some discussion a little while ago about the unique way the USA is governed…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/caucus-forms-to-save-the-f-35-from-budget-cuts/2011/11/22/gIQA6QDupN_story.html

    ‘Reps. Kay Granger (R-Tex.) and Norm Dicks (D-Wash.) announced the
    formation of a Congressional Joint Strike Fighter Caucus with 49 members
    from both parties. Its purpose: to protect funding for the F-35 stealth
    fighter. The plane, as the most expensive weapons program in history,
    is one of the biggest potential targets in the defense budget.’

    This gives an insight into the inexorable rise in US Federal spending – in this case its defence.

  • Socrates

    I like the way he shook his head when Harry Cole said racism does work both ways.

  • Socrates

    I admire Douglas Alexander and James Purnell.

  • Anonymous

    Just watching Sky News. Diane Abbott sounds really patronising. 

  • Floater

    Sky still leading on (another) Labour racist.

    Another good week for Labour…. and it ain’t over yet

  • Anonymous

    He was a nice chap when I met him while out campaigning for his opponent too. 

  • MickP0rk

    Sadly for Murdoch it won’t stop the 50 officer strong operation Rubicon going on in scotland under Salmond. Or any of the other criminal investigations any more than the Benny Hill buffoon Berlusconi can stop all the trials against him. The same Berlusconi who admires Mussolini so much. :-)

    Salmond wasn’t godfather to Murdoch’s children like Blair, didn’t have Brooks over with his wife like Brown, nor did he spend christmas with Brooks or hire Coulson as his right hand man like Cammie Blair did.

    Bit feeble even for the likes of you. Try harder.

  • Socrates

    The bringing on of Dizzee Rascal for Newsnight’s discussion of Barack Obama’s election victory might have been the lowest possible point for the program.

  • Anonymous

    I might write an article on a Labour personality I like when I narrow it down. I’ve met a large number that I like. I guess I need to work out which of them impress me on more than a personal level. For instance, I like Wayne David but his support for Gordon Brown proves he’s slightly mad. Indeed, I’d struggle to pointedly back anyone who took part in foisting that man on the country without proper debate.

  • http://twitter.com/Razedabode James Atkins

    About James Purnell- very much agreed. Huge courage when he resigned from the cabinet, and for that I think he gained a huge about of respect. Likewise, many of his views are palatable; perhaps the man to sway fringe Conservative voters. 

    About Douglas Carswell- as eurosceptic as I am- I feel he doth protest too much on the europe issue. Would like to here more on other issues etc.

  • MickP0rk

    We’ll be hearing far more from Carswell in the weeks and months to come over europe. The idea that the eurosceptics have all given up and are now completely satisfied with things after the flounce is funny but it’s nonsense.

    They have plans and they won’t stop now that they think they can make Cameron do their bidding.

  • Moniker of Monza

    Murdoch doesn’t sound too worried about Operation Rubicon . I suppose it helps if you’re a special friend of the First Minister.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I am sure there was a debate , and more than one. 
    Blair takes 99% of the blame for not sacking Brown when he knew full well that was what was required.

    Perhaps foisting Brown on Labour by Blair’s timing of his departure was Blair’s revenge  for the ignominious way he was treated by certain people within the Labour Party.

  • Anonymous

    Lee Jasper comes over jolly well on the telly…

  • tim

    I don’t really think you know what you are talking about.
    Operation Rubicon relates (in part) to the evidence given under oath by Andy Coulson while he was working in Downing Street.

    I’m sure David Cameron asked all the relevant questions and is in the clear.

  • MickP0rk

    He wasn’t worried about the BSkyB takeover or the “one rogue reporter”. He also thought Rebekah Brooks was perfectly safe.

    Being the very special friend of Blair or his understudy Cameron hasn’t helped him too much there has it? And it certainly hasn’t stopped operation Rubicon.

  • Anonymous

    Especially when the sceps think they can enlist the support of Lib Dems who see the party’s stance on Europe as making them very vulnerable in their Southern England seats. EG Ed Davey, as the Guardian highlighted a few days ago,,

  • MrsB

    He basically told them they had no hope of a decent job, that their parents had used up all the resources and they would have to fork out to subsidise their parents’ retirement, that they wouldn’t be able to afford a home of their own, that they would have to work until they were at least 70, if not older, that they would be saddled with huge debts all their lives, and things would only get worse over time!

    After he had finished, I could see the mouths of all the adults in the room hanging open and the teenagers looked completely shellshocked.  

  • MickP0rk

    Yes but Coulson had nothing to do with Cameron. He was just his right hand man.

  • Anonymous

    Abbott’s interview on Sky is comedy gold.

    She never returned…

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like he told the truth. Awful idea for a politician. The swine.

  • http://twitter.com/Razedabode James Atkins

    And we can only hope she never does…

  • tim

    I am sure that Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne recruited Andy Coulson after a thorough examination of what he was.

    Given how close Mr Cameron, Mr Osborne and Mr Coulson were I’m sure that the evidence Mr Coulson gave was thoroughly truthful and Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne had full confidence in it.

  • Sunil Prasannan

    Evening all,

    Well of course racism can cut both ways, but why does it seem it’s only wrong when you’re on the receiving end?

    BTW welcome back, Plato – hope your internet connection doesn’t play up again!

  • Anonymous

    I do not think Blair had much choice in his timing.

  • http://tinyurl.com/Agreement-of-the-People John Lilburne

    I really don’t understand what is wrong with campaigning to leave the EU, or for a looser union, or more democracy in the EU, or a more (economic) liberal set-up, or even to have a referendum and to allow people to vote on these things…

    I understand that Europhiles probably think all those things are wrong and almost on a par with killing the firstborn, but the argument always seems to be that even to discuss such things is anathema.  Why don’t Europhiles ever explain exactly why the current setup of the EU is optimal, why it must never be challenged, why the voters in a group of 27 democratic countries cannot  be allowed to make decisions about their country’s status in the Union or how the Union works…

    It’s all very curious.

  • Anonymous

    How has understudy cameron copied Blair? I’m curious.

  • MickP0rk

    I saw it and it was intriguing but Clegg would look quite the fool to flip-flop yet again over europe now.

    His party simply isn’t eurosceptic and despite a few voices of a slightly more eurosceptic tone it’s not about to change overnight particularly when that change would be seen as being a sop to conservative eurosceptics.

    Clegg’s already been made to look ridiculous over europe by being bounced into the flounce, dithering then finally realising his party was furious. He simply couldn’t afford for it to happen again.

  • MickP0rk

    I’m sure we’re gong to have some very interesting testimony on what Mr Coulson, Osbourne and Cameron knew and when, but it will have to wait as speculation would be fun but premature. ;^)

  • Floater

    October2008 the IMF said that the UK was worst placed of all the major economies to weather the coming recession.
    Ah yes, Labour of course tried to claim we were best placed.

  • MrsB

    Goodness me, it is obvious you haven’t been paying attention. 

    I have never claimed to be high-powered.   I am definitely not in the Midlands – but Berkshire. 

    I didn’t say the Scots had no part in the Civil War.  I said that there were rightwing historians who wanted to teach people English history, including the ENGLISH civil war.

    I think you mean Darien, not Dahrian.

    Have another beer.

  • tim

    Such a shame that Mr Osborne isn’t more curious about which NI employees were involved in the hacking of his phone.
    Luckily we have a curious prostitute to help us with that.

  • Plato

    OT – I think I’ve just gone to Cute Heaven – Bambi and kitten are in love :^)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPILzIICXjE&feature=colike

  • Floater

    This Lee Jasper?

    Lee Jasper@LeeJasperThe “good old boys” are saddling up there’s goona be a high tech lynching cos “sorry massa”aint good enough – they want blood.#DianeAbbottSee alsohttp://order-order.com/2012/01/05/lee-jasper-gets-some-home-truths/ 

  • MickP0rk

    You mean apart from saying he had and showing that he had with his amusing Blairite PR posturing to win the conservative leadership?

    Apart from that nothing much save for his entire political clique studying the Blair years and the strategems of Mandelson, Gould and the entire new labour project to base their rebranded conservative project on.

  • MrsB

    It was the brutality with which he put across a completely black picture of the future with no hope at all for anyone in it. 

  • Anonymous

    Honesty from a politician! What next?

  • MrsB

    Best wishes to Jack W.

    And I liked the Dr Who Christmas special.   And Sherlock.  And I find Star Trek patronising and simplistic rubbish most of the time which hasn’t moved on at all since the 1960s.  Not a patch on Babylon 5.

    And on that cheery note, I wish you all a pleasant evening.

  • John Wheatley

    Good to see the old chap is on the mend.

    Best wishes and get well soon JackW

  • Anonymous

    @nicholaswatt: Labour accepts £5bn of defence cuts as Jim Murphy rejects populist approach of opposing all cuts http://t.co/PEttQObT via @guardian

  • Anonymous

    I am not sure I can take an investigation seriously led by Inspector McSporran.  But I know I am being facile.

  • RodCrosby

    Who are you referring to?

  • Anonymous

    @PickardJE: Mystery to me when diane abbott is a shadow minister when talented types like tristram hunt, pat mcfadden etc left on the bench

  • Anonymous

    The Tories ran a pre election advert which showed a new born baby and went something like – ‘Mum’s eyes Dad’s nose and Gordon’s debt.’
    Seemed to me very apt and effective. 

  • The Screaming Eagles

    Irrefutable proof that HS2 is a colossus waste of money.

    The trade unions are for it.

    Britain needs £32bn High Speed Two go-ahead now, say rail union leaders

    Jobs hopes pinned on 250mph railway from London to Birmingham, and later north to Leeds and Manchester

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/05/high-speed-two-unions-back-government

  • MickP0rk

    Facile is one word for it considering Strathclyde Police’s Stephen House was one of those up for the top Met job to clean up the torrent of sh!t that’s piled up there.

  • Anonymous

    What a shocker!  Of all the areas to cut, Labour supports the ones on defence spending.

  • Anonymous

    Tim would say that wouldn’t he…

  • Sunil Prasannan

    I voted for him in 2005 when I lived in Cambridge :)

  • MickP0rk

    Murphy still has a go at what cuts. He’s not without ambition as I’m sure little Ed is still all too aware.

  • IoS

    Indeed.  Maybe Labour would have been only 15 seats instead of 20 off being in power ;-)

  • Sunil Prasannan

    Re-open the Great Central, dammit :)

  • The Screaming Eagles

    New thread

  • Anonymous

    The so-called convention is that the (neutral) Speaker is not challenged by the major parties.

    The local Lib Dems have tried to get the Speaker moved to an ‘MPs constituency’ so that the Buckingham constituents can vote for an MP who can speak up for them in Parliament.  However, the Procedures Committee has considered this and decided to stick with the current position.

    So it may be that the local parties will put forward candidates despite being lent on by the party leaders not to do so.

  • moses

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/10/phil-woolas-labour-fall-guy?commentpage=3#comment-8333318 
    “The Labour Party should never get involved in the politics of racial division.”
    DianeAbbottMP10 November 2010 02:29PM
    Dan Hodges is so anxious to defend Phil Woolas that he is missing the point. Phil is not a martyr, or a scapegoat or anybody’s fall guy. He has been convicted of lying about his election opponent’s character. And Phil has certainly enjoyed due process. No fewer than two high court judges deliberated over his case at length. Precisely because they were two high court judges there is no right of appeal. The judicial review that Woolas is seeking is NOT the same as a right of appeal and relates to the process not the finding of fact. Unlike Dan I believe that, if this judicial finding discourages parliamentary candidates from attacking their opponent’s character (as opposed to their policies), that will be a good thing. Nor does Dan recognise that although he (as a Westminster insider) may be blase about politicians lying, the public hates the idea and will welcome any judicial check on it. It is perfectly possible to be sympathetic to Woolas and his family but still accept that Harriet Harman was right in the stand that she took.The courts did not take into account the nature of the campaign Woolas was waging.http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/gallery/2010/nov/05/phil-woolas-campaign-literature But the email trail disclosed to the court reveals that the leaflets were not the product of an over-enthusiastic volunteer. The were part of a conscious strategy to enrage white voters and frighten them into voting Labour. Is that a respnsible path for an experienced MP to go down in a town that had already experienced race riots? And even if the courts did not (and could not) take that aspect into account; it weighs with many of us.The loyalty of Phil Woolas’s friends does them credit. But they need to try and see this how the public does. The Labour Party should never get involved in the politics of racial division. And although lying about your opponents (both inside and outside the party) may be commonplace to Dan, it is a way of doing politics that the public loathes and the party should be moving away from.

  • moses

    Representatives of more than 100,000 health service workers have rejected the Government’s final offer on pension contributions for the sector.
    Leaders of the Unite union unanimously rejected the proposed deal, which was aimed at ending a bitter dispute that prompted a walkout by up to two million public sector workers last November.
    General Secretary Len McCluskey said the proposed deal would see NHS staff pay more, work longer and get less when they retire.
    “The Government’s attacks on public sector pensions are politically-motivated, as part of an overall design to privatise the NHS, cut public services, break up the national pay agreements, and disrupt legitimate trade union activities and organisation,” he said.
    http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16143244 

  • Anonymous

    Bloody Hell discus is hard work!Totally right about the GC Mr Sunil.A lot of the trackbed still remains in situ,plus it was built to the continental gauge so would have been ideal for Channel Tunnel Freight.I’m sure opening the GC wouldn’t cost 32 Billion as well!!