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ComRes has Labour tied with the Tories

June 18th, 2011

Should Labour not be doing better?

The latest ComRes poll for the Indepedent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror is out, and has Labour 37% (-2), Conservative 37% (-1) and the Lib Dems on 11% again. Others are up to 15%.

Ed Miliband will be worried that his personal numbers are so poor – his figures have dropped 10-points in a month, according to Politics Home.

Ed Balls is little better thought of with only 10% preferring the pugilistic Shadow Chancellor – although 27% think David Miliband would be doing a better job than his brother. John Rentoul’s take is here

UPDATE from Mike Smithson

As several people have pointed out on the thread there is something not quite right with the poll.

This is the email I’ve just sent to the pollster:-

I can’t figure out the VI numbers in the latest poll.

The figures on page 17 of the dataset have CON 37: LAB 37: LD 11: BNP 9%: SNP 5%: GRN 4%: PC 4%: UKIP 4%: OTHERS 13%.

I make that a total of 124%.

I’d be grateful if you could clear this up ASAP.

Many thanks.

Morus




  • surbiton

    YouGov ?

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    Have just tried to listen to Nolan on R5 and got a ‘we can’t let you listen to this because of rights restrictions re the golf’

    WTF is the point of that? I have no interest in listening to Fighting Talk again.

    I’ve never had this before.

  • tim

    191 – I have, its a wow, he’s going for it big time.

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    200. On the brightside it’s also rumoured that it won’t go until 2014 (when the BBC cuts have to be in iirc) so it could rest on the BBC for a couple more years.

  • Ave it

    186 40/1????

    I would say mcilroy is 100/1 to win!!!!!*

    *Ave it does not lay or offer bets

  • surbiton
  • jsfl

    194 OK well I’ll have to pick it up tomorrow

  • fitalass

    Morris Dancer @200

    Morris, my thoughts exactly.

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    202. I think the US Open is particularly stingy with allowing internet updates on the golf. The BBC live text isn’t even allowed a running scoreboard, it has to link to the main US open site.

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    204, Mr. Corporeal, that’s something, but it’s still not great.

    Oh well. There’ll still be radio coverage.

  • Slackbladder

    214: There have been additional rumours they may try to break the contract for F1 early…

  • http://tomknoxbooks.com SeanT

    Before I retire, a point on retirement.

    It’s just occurred to me that the Romans reserved a few favoured spots in their Empire as places of retirement – these were the dulcet destinations, the exquisite corners of the Empire, where they sent their grand ex generals and worthy old soldiers to live out their years.

    Where were they?

    Dalmatia in Croatia, the coast around Naples, southern Extramadura in Spain, and here in Provence.

    In other words, the places we’d all like to retire to, today.

    We think everything has changed, yet, in a way, nothing has changed.

    And now I must retire. Bon nuit.

  • IainM

    Eight out of 10 cats say Labour is toast! The other 2 are spreading the marmalade!

    I am going back to my MacAllan!

  • wage slave

    150.

    “Tomorrow’s Sunday Telegraph front page – “Cameron: Absent dads as bad as drink drivers””

    I thought it lovely how the Hellobore sub-editors laid this article out next to the photoitem on the third marriage of serial ‘love-em-and-leave-em’ dad Mr Spencer, brother-in-law to our future king, who, I think, has six known sprogs to whom he can hardly give too much attention while he’s galavanting round the world searching for fresh nookie.

    What with the toe-sucking recipient on the other ‘down-line’, our Royals post-Liz begin to make premiership footballers seem upright.

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    corporeal @209

    Its really clamped down this yr as I normally tune in over the net for all my radio unless in the car.

    I wouldn’t mind but I’ve no idea when it’ll be over = the next prog is 0100 start time and wondering if it’ll be the same bollox.

    There’s only so much oldies radio I can stand ;)

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    211, Mr. Slackbladder, if that’s true then I want to [MODERATED] the [CENSORED]ing [MODERATED]ers. What an absolutely [SUPER-INJUNCTED] disgrace!

  • jsfl

    206. Er no wishful thinking on your part and some liberal licence by the BBC quoting Big Ed’s delusions. Its just a repeat of what has been said all along which is that talks are ongoing. Rogue unions who are indulging in sabre rattling should get back to the negotiation table.

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    Plato @194

    Apparently STimes Cameron story is launch of Big Society Bill next week according to Sky

  • wage slave

    206.

    St Vince is suggesting, perhaps, that MacBeaker is a wan cur?

    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110325163354/muppet/images/8/8c/Beaker.png

  • fitalass

    IainM @213:

    I am going back to my MacAllan!

    An excellent choice, but could I also recommend Caol Isla.  

  • jsfl

    Right well thats me lot for tonight

    Toodles….

  • Sean Fear

    Sean T, that’s Ed Balls’ problem. Even if he can persuade people that our economic problems have nothing to do with the last government, and that our economy will grow more quickly if we borrow more, he’ll struggle to get over the feeling that we blew it, and now we’re going to have to pay for it – as we do when we suffer a hangover, the morning after the night before.

  • Ave it

    213 more chance of labour getting an overall maj than mcilroy winning!!!!!

    Lab GE2015 win 50/1
    McIlroy win any major 125/1
    Westwood win any major 1000/1

  • Yokel

    As someone who backed against McIlroy on the the final day of the Masters because I felt he would blow it, I think its going to be a huge task this time for him to mess it up.

    Should skate home.

  • jsfl

    218. Plato

    Oh is that all. I thought it might be something interesting and not what sadly is likely to become a damp squib…..

    Toodles…..

    :-)

  • Slackbladder

    224: Okay..thanks…now you’ve jinxed him no doubt..

  • tim

    217 – There’s a cynical way of looking at this, and it explains why Lansley and Clarke had to be shafted after Osborne and Cameron signed off their policies,

    Anything that interferes with a Tory majority at the next election will be dumped.
    The Boy sends out the Park Ranger to test the water, the Park Ranger accepting that its pay off for Clegg getting some credit for the shafting of Lansley.

    If Osborne reckons Serwotka helps the Tories get a majority then kts hardball, with Danny takingmthe flak.
    Meanwhile Dave can do his “I love the NHS, my family, your bin” speeches.

  • GIN

    227. You make that sound like thats a bad thing.

    The Conservatives want a majority in 2015 – Shocker!

  • tim

    ” STimes Cameron story is launch of Big Society Bill next week according to Sky”

    Oh dear, it wasn’t really wow after all.

  • Ave it

    227 tim – UNITE have 1,000,000 NHS spongers all employed by labour!!!!!

    Lets sack them all and think of the tax cuts we can have!!!!!!

    NHS = cheerio!!!

    Higher rate/additional rate/PA restriction abolished!!!!

  • Tim B

    McIlroy 8 ahead of Westwood, but Rory in the bunker at 10 – could be a bogey.

  • another richard

    The point made by the Seans about austerity and suffering is correct.

    Suffering can be good for the soul and while the VAT rise costs me more on petrol and alcohol personally my heart soars everytime I drive past a grotty takeaway and see fat/lazy chavs paying extra VAT because they can’t be bothered to cook for themselves.

    We need to psycologically purge the excessive greed and consumption mentality from ourselves. I’ve said before but there are links here for Cameron’s big society and interests in the environment and development. What I fear though is that to Cameron a return to ‘normal’ economically is merely a return to the summer of 2007 ie immediately before Northern Rock.

    Also, tim’s point about allotments is a good one. I wonder how much it would cost to but up a few greenbelt fields around towns.

  • tim

    228 – I don’t at all, the issue I have is with the people who thought Lansley wouldn’t get dumped on if he threatened that, and Any Lib Dems who think they are going to get a slice of the pie in the run up to the next election.

  • runnymede

    232. Perhaps we should offer a cow with the three acres as well?

  • another richard

    That’s a very good picture at the top of the thread.

    Not only do our political establishment have similar backgrounds they also manage to look like each other as well.

    And then they wonder why they all have negative ratings.

  • IainM

    fitalass

    I opened the MacAllan as I just bought the latest series of NCIS on DVD! Having a family night in splurging on NCIS and whatever the women are cooking up tonight!

    The Doc in NCIS is naturally a MacAllan fan!

  • Augustus Carp

    234 There’s a man with a sense of history!

  • Ave it

    231 rory will probably get a 10 there!

    But westwood will lose too!

    232 i love vat and think it should be extended to everything and 25% so the feckless poor pay their way!!!!!!!

    And lets reduce income tax especially higher rate!!!!!!

  • tim

    230 – Think you’ve got Unite and unison mixed up.

    Even then, within the same union, it’s nuanced as in.

    SIMPSON was a TW@ and Woodley, despite bang on the FAR LEFT played a blinder during the recession, the car industry being th F£CKING EXAMPLE.

  • another richard

    “Perhaps we should offer a cow with the three acres as well?”

    I think the benefits from wider avaiability of allotments would be more psycholgical than material.

    Food is still historically very cheap. How much would you save if you had an allotment? £100? £200? But the psychological and social and health benefits could be much more.

  • fitalass

    IainM @236

    Big NCIS fan too, thought the last few episodes in the latest series were great.

  • Tim B

    Rory starting to hit left off the tee, just like Sunday in Augusta.

    Control lad!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    Bizarro – US Open is now on R5 :?

    Only restricted before 11pm?

  • Ave it

    239 ok lets scrap the other 1m in the public sector too!!!!

    No income tax!!!!!

    242 rory all over now! All about trying to keep the personal allowance by keeping income below £100,000pa!!!!!

    will rory finish 65-66-80-103?!

  • http://www.the-tap.blogspot.com Tapestry

    Simpsons foretell another false flag op as they did 911 in Manhattan – this time in Berlin. Due next week 26.6. details.

  • tim

    240 – Allotments

    Cheaper than a gym
    Allow children in.
    Saves £200 a year alone in herbs (and I’m in my forties so I’m talking culinary,sadly)
    Initiatate tadpole/ frog conversation naturally with eager learning kids.
    Mix ages, something that our non mixed housing society doesn’t do like it did in the good old days.
    Touches that seasonal thing that we’ve lost since the BBC I Player.

    There is no downside, Dave gets crap advice on his Big Society wankathon, Mike, pass on my number

  • fitalass

    Plato @243

    Plato, spare a thought for me, I have to watch it for four days. So that is another Sunday evening that will see my only regular weekend slot in charge of the TV controls disrupted again. :D

  • another richard

    I quite want McIlroy to win as he seems a nice lad and is a talented player.

    But I sort of want him to lose to maintain the tradition of British losers.

    And why are 3 of golf’s majors in the USA.

    The US Open I understand
    The US Masters I understand

    But why isnt there a British Masters (to be played every year at St Andrews) to go along with the British Open?

    After all why sould anyone care about the USPGA after all nobody cares about the British/European PGA tournament do they?

  • Slackbladder

    246: and where would you find all this land in the middle of cities which would be accessable to people?

  • tim

    248 – The gap in the Market is Asia, and the Ryder cup being a three way tournament with a rest of the world team.

  • another richard

    On second thoughts the British Masters should be played at somewhere inland as all the British Opens are on links courses.

    As Wentworth has the World Matchplay the British Masters should take place at Walton Heath.

  • tim

    249 – Lots of unused land in cities, apparently Grant Shapps just discovered a lot

  • fitalass

    In an attempt to avoid the Golf, just watched The Snapper and the The Commitments for the first time years over last couple of nights. Still great.

  • Slackbladder

    252: Oh right, so it’s to be used for allotments and houses at the same time..

    thats a clever trick, would it be like a multi-storey carpark?

  • another richard

    Isn’t there already the Presidents Cup held between a USA team and ROW team?

    The problem being that while USA v Europe or England v Australia has meaning once you get into ROW teams consisting of people from Australia, South Africa, Japan, Fiji, Argentina and maybe a dozen other countries it all becomes a bit ‘who cares’.

  • tim

    And heresthe real judgement on Lansleys madness and Daves playing to the gallery on his “bare knuckle fight” to save your local hospital.

    “Twenty hospitals must shut if the NHS is to improve its levels of care, according to leading health experts and government advisers.

    Fears are growing that the row over health secretary Andrew Lansley’s reforms has proved a distraction from the need to act quickly amid a financial crisis within the health service.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/18/twenty-hospitals-shut-nhs-crisis?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  • Yellow Submarine

    Has Tim been on the cooking sherry?

  • AnneJGP

    Try these schemes:

    http://www.landshare.net/

  • tim

    255 – “it all becomes a bit ‘who cares’.”

    you mean like euro sceptic Tories used to think about the European Ryder Cup team?

  • Witan

    Yellow Sub there is a stand-in house elf on duty. Even Timmey Elf has to have some time off to play that farming game he thought was real, or so he told us.

  • Yellow Submarine

    Some of the stuff rosie boycott has done for Boris as food advisor is great.she’d ma great allotment goat.

  • another richard

    “There is no downside, Dave gets crap advice on his Big Society wankathon, Mike, pass on my number”

    I must say that I’ve always suspected that Cameron’s view of the Big Society to be rather top down.

    Cameron really believes he can make the world a better place. Which is good but I would much rather that it entailed allowing people to chose for themselves how and giving them the means to do it rather than having Cameron strutting self-righteously spending money.

  • tim

    257 – Yes, but my position on cooking sherry is nuanced.
    Sherry should become cooking sherry when it has been open for more than a few days.

    There is no such thing as cooking sherry.
    No sherry is born to become cooking sherry.

  • Ave it

    has rory lost yet?!

    GN all

  • Pulpstar

    @240/246/249 Who needs ‘land’ for allotments when you can have entire farms inside tower blocks: http://mif.co.uk/event/vertical-farm/

  • Tim B

    248 – historically there are only 4 majors.

    When Bob Jones did the Grand Slam it was the British Amateur and Open, and the US Amateur and Open.

    The PGA is trying to get the Players Championship viewed as a 5th major, without success.

    Over time British golf became less and less competitive, so it became the Masters, PGA, and the two Opens.

    You will not find a second major tournament in the UK for one simple reason – weather.

    One of the more depressing aspects of the British Open recently is that more and more young US players think it isn’t worth all the hassle to go to Europe for 1 event.

    If you think nobody respects the European Tour, have you checked the World Golf Rankings recently?

  • Augustus Carp

    263 On the subject of Sherry, if on nothing else, Tim knows what he’s talking about. See Gilbert Jeffs QC’s book on the subject – masteful.

  • another richard

    “you mean like euro sceptic Tories used to think about the European Ryder Cup team?”

    As someone who would fall under that designation I have to say I’ve had no problem supporting Europe. If it had been an EU team that might have been different.

    I did sort of want the US to win a couple of times – 1991 and 2008 – but only because Europe had been so dominant that I felt sorry for the USA.

    But if instead of it being a European team – with whom I could feel a connection with – it had instead being a ROW team, I would have felt no connection and any support with have been strictly of the unpleasant anti variety.

  • Fox in sox

    232: I don’t think VAT is payable on takeaways, only meals eaten on premises.

    Austerity is inevitable, and my puritan soul is not averse to a little scourging of excess. What will offend is the sight of others being spared. Like most workers in public and private sector I have had no payrise for three years. Three years of high inflation, three years of benefit rises alongside the CPI. The fact is that most of the national budget, and national deficit, are from the welfare state. Unless that is cut in size and/or generosity the deficit will not reduce, including my own work in the NHS.

  • Tim B

    264 – Rory is doing well. My guess was he would shoot 68-70 today. It looks like that is about right.

    If anyone is wondering why Heidi, the prognosticating canine, has not opined about the US Open, it’s because 75lbs of beautiful German Shepherd has transmogrified into 75lbs of wobbly blancmange, as we are experiencing 60mph winds and warnings of supercell thunderstorms, according to the local TV weather, which keeps obscuring the bottom 1/3 of the screen to impart this, and she wishes to remain asphixiatingly close to me and demanding continuing fuss and attention..

  • Pulpstar

    @259 Ah the laughable notion that you can’t support ‘Europe’ without supporting the EU. Overarching political constructs (or lack thereof) do not determine sport support and friendship.

  • jascow

    tim @263
    There is such a thing as cooking sherry, it’s just not the same as the state.

  • DavidL

    Rory goes to -14. Unbelievable and I don’t even like golf.

  • tim

    272 – good line. That would explain the Cameron-Antoinettes need for two kitchens.

  • surbiton

    269. VAT is chargeable on takeaways. Nigel Lawson introduced it.

    HMRC: “You must always charge VAT at the standard rate if you make a supply of food and drink for consumption on the premises on which it is supplied – see also section 1. Also, you must charge VAT at the standard rate if you supply hot take-away food (that is, food for consumption away from the premises where it is sold).”

  • Yellow Submarine

    263. You should check out the dionysus character in the Percy Jackson books. I’m in the land supermarkets forgot so had to make do with half a bottle of ghastly Aussie shiraz. I’m having to burn a mixture of frankinsense and myrhh as solace.

  • Tim B

    Wow – looks like Sergio channeling Seve , hitting the pin.

    273 – believe it – and it’s never too late to start liking golf ;-)

  • Tim B

    Sergio Garcia – the ultimate example of potential unfulfilled.

    Such a shame.

    On the other hand, looking forward to seeing many of these players at the PGA Championship in August – I’m a marshal on #5 :-)

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    On a side note, is there a more jarring score than the Sharpe films? We’ve got redcoats, flintlock muskets, Wellington and Napoleon in the early 19th century, to the stains of electric guitar.

  • Fox in sox

    275: you are right, hot food is VATed, cold is not. So a sandwich is untaxed unless toasted on the premises. Funny old rules really.

  • Yellow Submarine

    269. Spit it out.

  • fitalass

    corporeal @279

    Great series though. :D

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    282. True, although I’ll watch more or less any historical drama.

  • another richard

    “You will not find a second major tournament in the UK for one simple reason – weather.”

    In much the same way that tennis doesn’t have two of its big tournaments in north-western Europe in early summer.

    Except it does,

    And of course golf can be played in bad weather and is often made more interesting with it.

    Golf should just get rid of the USPGA. Its crap and nobody remembers who wins it 5 minutes later.

  • Dave B

    Fox in sox @90:
    I think the biggest problem will be not seeing tax cuts, to marry up with reduction in spending on public services.

    The Guardian produced a nice breakdown of gov’t spending last year. The figure for debt interest was £30 billion. I expect to see that rise significantly.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/oct/18/government-spending-department-2009-10

  • Tim B

    284 And of course golf can be played in bad weather and is often made more interesting with it.

    - not for your average TV viewer. Sun ALWAYS beats rain.

    Golf should just get rid of the USPGA. Its crap and nobody remembers who wins it 5 minutes later.

    If you ask any pro golfer – and I have – the PGA is the tournament everyone wants to win apart from a major. It has some cachet as the best ‘non-major’.

  • fitalass

    corporeal @283

    I always enjoy watching Sharpe and Hornblower, and the kids are great fans too.

  • another richard

    “True, although I’ll watch more or less any historical drama.”

    The Indian episodes of Sharpe were good becuase they could do them on the big scale.

    On the other hand their attempt to do Waterloo with only 40 extras.

    Its a pity they stopped the Hornblower series half way through.

  • Yellow Submarine

    The really good one is which sorts of hot food take away need take away planning consent. It all depends on how it was heated.

  • fitalass

    I think that a drama that really covers and does Waterloo justice is well overdue. Over to the Beeb or ITV to try an do it. There is definitely a niche for this, and maybe a remake of others like the Battle of Rorke’s Drift?
    I well remember my Dad dragging me to see Zulu when I was kid at the cinema, although my Mum wasn’t sure that it would be quite my scene. :D

  • another richard

    “not for your average TV viewer. Sun ALWAYS beats rain.”

    Probably in golf, certainly at the Masters in Augusta, but not in motor racing.

    And the USPGA is a major so I don’t know which pro golfers you’ve been speaking to.

  • Matt J

    286. The US PGA supposedly is one of the 4 ‘Majors’ so calling it the best ‘non-major’ is quite damning about its true rank.

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    287. It’s a shame in Sharpe they had to mix up the order of the female love interests, so they had to get rid of the Spanish rebel leader who suited him in favour of various forgettable others so they could have Sharpe end up with a new girl each time.

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    291. I assumed they meant the Players

  • another richard

    Why remake Zulu, what’s to be gained?

    Has there ever been a remake which was better than the original?

    I dread to think what the new Dambusters will be like, complete with renamed dog.

  • Tim B

    291 Probably in golf, certainly at the Masters in Augusta, but not in motor racing.

    a glorious non sequitur. Yes in F1 rain does indeed make life interesting.

    And the USPGA is a major so I don’t know which pro golfers you’ve been speaking to.

    You got me – I was concentrating so hard on watching the golf I wasn’t watching what I was typing. I meant the Players.

    As to which golfers I’ve been talking to. I was on the scoring committee at the Masters for 4 years. I currently work the Tour Championship, the PGA, and the McGladrey Classic. If you name one I’ve probably talked to him.

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    295. There have been some, occasionally it’s a case of not realising it’s a remake.

  • http://liberaltaxi.blogspot.com/ corporeal

    296. John Daly?

  • fitalass

    corporeal @293

    All got a bit confusing in the end to be honest. I am a great fan of good old fashioned Austin and Elliot dramas etc, but I must admit that Sharpe was often better when it did war instead of love. That said, I got really stuck at one point trying to work out why one ancestor who served in 78th Foot Regiment; Royal African Colonial Corps between 1811-1826 had been born some where completely different from his siblings. Then discovered that his Dad had served in the Highland Fenciblies regiment which had been stationed where he was born. So pre 1800′s, the wives of the lower ranks definitely travelled with the men.

  • Tim B

    296 – oddly enough Yes, but not about the Players.

    When I lived in Augusta, I lived in the same street as the secretary of the Augusta National. Every year he would hold a party for the officials, TV people, and assorted Masters characters on the Tuesday before the par 3. John Daly parked in my driveway one year (he asked first), and we sat on the grass in my front yard and shared a couple of beers.

    Rory has just gotten 199, the lowest 54 hole total ever in the US Open.